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Let's Talk Wyoming
When Roosevelt's Tree Army Built Wyoming
Wyoming faces growing concerns about data centers consuming excessive power and water resources while potentially turning the state into a nuclear waste repository. Fall brings cooler temperatures, hunting season preparation, and community events like Apple Fest at Ten Sleep's Circle J Ranch.
• Wyoming weather transitions to fall with cool mornings and warm afternoons
• Cheyenne emerging as Wyoming's data center hub raises energy consumption concerns
• Renewable energy implementations consistently correlate with higher consumer power bills
• Bill Gates' nuclear project in Kemmerer generates skepticism about Wyoming becoming a nuclear waste repository
• Wyoming Cowboys showing defensive promise despite offensive struggles against Utah
• Early beet harvest underway with favorable weather conditions
• Apple Fest coming to Ten Sleep's Circle J Ranch on September 27th
• Hunting season preparations begin with rifle season starting around October 1st
• The passing of George, a beloved 12.5-year-old Chihuahua-Jack Russell mix
• The Civilian Conservation Corps transformed Wyoming during the Great Depression, building infrastructure still in use today
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Good morning and welcome to let's Talk Wyoming. I'm Mark Hamilton, your host, and today we'll be looking at our as usual, our beautiful fall weather. We'll talk about some happenings here in this state and we'll remember Georgie and we'll have a story on the CCC here in the state of Wyoming. Thanks for joining us and and hope you enjoy the pod Taking a look at Wyoming weather today here on the 17th day of September.
Speaker 1:We're flying right on through September. We're on a full ahead, katy Bar, the door to winter. It's right around the corner. I can only imagine it's going to be a doozy this year. Right now in Hot Springs County, just a little bit chilly. Didn't really warm up a lot this afternoon Got to about 70. Overnight it actually didn't get as cold as it has been. It was in the high 40s this morning at 530. When I was headed out to take the dogs on their morning jaunt in the dark. But looking at the forecast for next week I see it's going to get warm again. So summer's not giving up, but we are definitely into fall. It's that type of weather. You're going to cool off overnight. It takes a while in the morning. Then you're going to have the hot afternoons which are really enjoyable.
Speaker 1:This is the time to get finished up on some projects. I've got a couple of them. I've got a bathroom remodel that I need to do and so I am procrastinating. I'm the master of procrastination. Just have to get started tearing everything out of there. That's what I'm really dreading. Putting everything back from a bath to just a straight shower in a guest bathroom won't be bad, but it's just a matter of having to do the work and getting all the old tub-shower combo out of there and getting sheetrock out of the way and getting the plumbing and the fixtures replaced and such. So just another one of those projects replaced and such. So just another one of those projects. And I got some outdoor stuff to do on some sign rentals that I need to be getting after before it gets real cold. So busy time of year.
Speaker 1:I've got a trip planned down to Cheyenne this week and actually over the weekend and get a chance to head that way. I know it's been green down in that area in Cheyenne and Laramie County and up through that area They've been getting rain on a regular basis, staying pretty green, so they're pretty lucky. I guess you would call Cheyenne the data center hub of Wyoming. I mentioned it last week just in passing about the data centers. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've done a lot of research on data centers and I'm seeing a lot of concerning things on them where they use a lot of power and a lot of water and I just can't figure out, with the amount that they're building, how we're going to be able to supply the power to these areas, to these data centers in these areas, with using these renewable resources which are not functional here in our state we have. They're talking about putting up more windmills and I guess we've got a lot of open space with a lot of wind, especially in southern Wyoming, and somebody said he didn't have a problem with it. But the real problem I do every time they put up a windmill our power bill goes up. When you start getting into that renewable it is really expensive. And my power bill nobody. They complain about the price of gas at the pump, but man, you better look at your power bill. It's just going up and it ain't going to come down.
Speaker 1:And if these data centers keep on going the way they're talking, I don't know what we're going to do for power. I know that the government is talking about nuclear is the answer. I know that the government is talking about nuclear is the answer, but even nuclear takes a while to put in the facilities to generate power. Here in our state of Wyoming we've got the wonderful Bill Gates is working on a nuclear project down in the Kemmerer area, converting an old power plant there to nuclear. And I see Bill Gates' name beside it and I get a little concerned. I don't know if he really has the well-being of Wyoming. There's been talk about Wyoming receiving a bunch of nuclear waste again. It will be a spot to put in data centers, windmills and nuclear plants with nuclear waste material that dumps someplace. I guess that is not very, I guess not appealing to me for the future of the state of Wyoming. I think there are some big problems that we're facing if we go that way. So data centers, the weather, electrical power, check your electric bill and kind of see, just keep on. I will probably mention quite a bit about the data centers. But do your own research, be a thinker, take a look at what's out there and start watching and you'll see what's going on across the country and then ask yourself if this is something you think will be a really great thing and sports here in the state Cowboys.
Speaker 1:They had a game last Saturday night on national TV. They took on the University of Utah at War Memorial. They came out on the short end of the stick. They played good. The defense is looking good right now. Utah missed some field goals in the first half and the Cowboys were right there until the second half, and then Utah just a little bit deeper and they ended up winning the game. The Cowboys just really can't generate much in the way of offense. The Cowboys just really can't generate much in the way of offense. So they go down to Boulder, colorado. As I've related earlier, they will take on the Colorado Buffs. Head coach for the Buffs is Deion Sanders. The team hasn't been as good this year. They had a good season last year but they're having some struggles. So I bet they're just loving to get Wyoming down to Boulder and try to run that score up, to try to put the ship headed the right direction. So Cowboys in action.
Speaker 1:High school football is taking place. The Thermopolis Bobcats are home for the first game of the season. They have been on the road and they will be taking on the Kemmer Rangers Friday afternoon or Friday evening 5 o'clock game. I think Thermopolis might have a football team, so we'll see how that goes. And then also volleyball is pushing right ahead here in our state.
Speaker 1:I got a chance to go to a volleyball game of all places Burlington, wyoming last night. For you listeners that might not be here from Wyoming, it's a small town in the north central part of Wyoming, the Riverside Rebels, who are based out of Basin Wyoming. They took on the Burlington Lady Huskies About 22 miles and change from Basin to Burlington. It went five sets and Burlington was victorious. The Lady Rebels played a good game but just couldn't overcome. So volleyball is in action. I noticed today I had to go to the dentist and get a little bit of a spot fixed on a tooth and I did see in Moreland. It's that time of year they're doing.
Speaker 1:The early beet harvest has taken place, barley harvest has been done, beet harvest is in place and before you know it. But the weather's been cooperating we have not gotten much of any type of rain. It looks like it's going to rain every night and nothing happens. So I see the weather looks good next week high 80s. So the farmers can get those beets up pretty quick. So I think they're hoping to have good weather so they can get all their beet harvest done.
Speaker 1:Then also the 27th, next Saturday, is Apple Fest up at Ten Sleep, up at Circle J Ranch Kind of a fun event. People come from all around. There'll be vendors up there serving food and there'll be apple crisp, apple pies and ice cream for people to purchase. A lot of activities, a lot of other people are up there. Great day to get out and kind of enjoy the last few days of the fall and right now the weather looks good. One year it was really bad, it rained and cold and it was a miserable one, but it looks again like a favorable Saturday for apple fest and also here in our country we're getting close to that point where hunting season is right around the corner. There probably is some early bow hunting taking place, but the general rifle season will be getting started here about the 1st of October and so bring a lot of people here to the state of Wyoming, a lot of hunters out again with our fire danger. I'm wondering if there'll be any restrictions in any of the area just to try to prevent any type of late season fires. So all that's taking place. So we've got a lot of stuff going on here in the state, a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:Here in the state of Wyoming. We had a beautiful time. If you want to come visit, if you've got a weekend or whatever you live in an adjoining state, come on down to Wyoming or come to Wyoming and take a trip through the Bighorns, or you can go to the Jackson Country. It slows down a little bit over there this time of year, not quite as many people out, so it is a little enjoyable. Good time to go through the park, get up to the park before it gets closed, but I just enjoy the fall and I enjoy traveling in the fall. You don't have as many big campers and as many people out, it's not quite as busy and you can stop places and get something to eat or go see stuff.
Speaker 1:And finally today, with a really sad heart, on Sunday night we lost our little boy George. George was a 12-and-a-half-year-old Chihuahua jack russell, terrier cross. We had got george from the humane society in wordland, wyoming, when he was just a puppy and he was such a cute little boy and he really had a personality and we went to the shelter, definitely put on a show. He was going to make sure that we took him home and there was just no way to leave him there and he really fit into our family. He was one of those type of dogs that just was just so happy all the time and just really warmed a lot of hearts. And he had been having some heart problems and actually had been on medication for about a year and a half. I didn't think he would even, you know, allow us out long before that would get him. He had been retaining fluid and such, but he had had some up and down days recently and then Sunday night he had suddenly had a bled out, a yap and picked him up and was holding him and he passed away and I made sure that the other dogs got to see him. I've been told that the first time that I've really done it had the opportunity to do it, the other dogs saw George and so the next morning Doug his grave out here behind our house. We've got acreage and we have a cemetery. Our Hamilton Pet Cemetery Got a Barry George.
Speaker 1:It's always tough, even though we have three other dogs, two large dogs and a blind pug when you lose one of your pets. For us it always seems like those first few days, and even today that you're just looking around because he was always following you. He was always there Whenever I went somewhere, until he got to the point where he had his heart problems. He would ride everywhere with us and he just really had a way of making people feel better, put a smile on your face. So we've been missing George all week long and we will continue to miss George, and I know that we will never find another Georgie. He just had a way about himself. But we know that he's in a better place. He went over that rainbow bridge and I know that we'll be able to see George again in the future someday, and we look forward to that. But it's always hard as a pet owner. If you're one, you know what we're going through and how hard it is to lose that little dog that you love. George, you were a good boy. You'll be surely missed Today.
Speaker 1:In our history section always have to learn about our history. Of course, I turned to my favorite spot, wildhistoryorg. Pretty good story, and maybe it's something that we may end up with here in our present days before we know it. Hard times in the conservation, the CCC in Wyoming. This was by Kerry Drake.
Speaker 1:Red Fenwick couldn't believe what he saw in 1933 when he met the train that carried a motley group of Bronx youth to Canyon Junction in Yellowstone National Park. It was the sorriest assemblage of humans since Indian Treaty days. He recalled he was a foreman assigned to whip into shape the first civilian conservation corps crews assigned to work in the park. Fenwick, who later became a well-known Denver Post reporter, wrote in a 1965 column that some enrollees were already homesick while others were clearly out of control. All needed a shower and a shave, he remembered they looked as though they had walked past an Army surplus supply depot after an explosion and had grabbed whatever item of clothing that they fancied explosion and had grabbed whatever item of clothing that they fancied. The young men took a truck to their own camp where one of Yellowstone's many geysers greeted them, sending an impressive calm of steam and hot water high into the sky Throughout Wyoming and across Wyoming.
Speaker 1:Thousands of young men were also getting acquainted with their new environment. It was part of President Franklin D Roosevelt's plan during the Great Depression to provide jobs and education for millions of unemployed youth while conserving the nation's natural resources. The CCC went from an idea to reality in lightning speed, especially compared to modern-day federal programs. A month after his proposal to Congress, roosevelt signed the law officially creating the Emergency Conservation Work Project on March 30, 1933. It quickly became known as the Civilian Conservation Corps, also had a popular nickname, the Tree Army.
Speaker 1:By June 1, 300 CCC camps had been created nationwide and by the next month they were staffed by a total of more than a quarter million enrollees. Initially there were 24 camps in Wyoming, each expected to house 200 men. To join, enrollees had to be between 18 and 25, unmarried, unemployed and with a family on relief. The pay was low even for the Depression. The CCC paid the enrollees a dollar a day, so each earned about $30 per month, but $25 was taken from their checks and sent to their families, leaving them only $5. None of the men were going to do any work like that for a dollar a day, predicted Maurice Miller of Chicago, a group leader at the CCC camp at Fort Hunt, virginia. Joseph Bach, a Chicago clerk, said he definitely wouldn't enroll. It's not for me, it's like being sold into Savery, he said. Most of the new members of the Corps, though, didn't look at it that way. Jobs and money were scarce and signing up was a way to help their families. Their room and board would be paid for and they'd be sent to areas of the country most had never seen before. Not all were such willing participants, however. Precinct police captains in New York City gave young men a choice sign up or go to the reformatory.
Speaker 1:More than a thousand young men served in the state between 1934 and 1938. During this period age restrictions were lifted so more veterans of World War I could find work, and so was the requirement that enrollees had to be unmarried. They constructed sewers and water systems, service roads, museums and exhibits, boat docks, phone lines, utility buildings, snowshoe cabins for patrols, eradicated gophers, eliminated local weed and dug garbage pits. Major projects in Wyoming's national forests involved protecting the Colorado and Missouri River watersheds, developing recreational facilities and thinning forests. The CCC launched several wildlife protection projects, including preservation of the country's largest elk herd. The young man also transplanted beaver from overstocked areas to more favorable areas. Crews took census of wildlife and studied game ranges, migratory patterns and feeding habits.
Speaker 1:In several forest areas, especially in the Medicine Bow National Forest, bark beetle control was a constant battle. Blizzard relief was undertaken during the harsh winter of 1936-37. And the men were always on call to fight forest fires, which could turn bad quickly and they were deadly. Nine members of various CCC companies in the area died during the Blackwater Creek Fire west of Cody in 1937. Five professional firefighters from the Forest Service who were supervising the crew were also killed in the blaze.
Speaker 1:One of the most challenging CCC projects in the state was undertaken by Gillette Crew, which fought the fires burning more or less constantly in some exposed coal seams and abandoned mines. At least 17 coal fires were burning in Campbell County. Many started by lightning decades before. Some of the fires were about 1,000 foot in length along the outcrop. The CCC enrollees would either dig out the burning material and then cover the remaining exposed coal with sand, or extinguish the fire by sealing it and depriving it of oxygen, or extinguish the fire by sealing it and depriving it of oxygen. By all accounts, the effort was impressive but also slow going.
Speaker 1:Jackson Lake, one of the largest projects undertaken by the CCC in Wyoming, a dam built by the US Reclamation Service in 1916, enlarged the lake as it filled it flooded more land and submerged more than 8,000 acres of timber. The stretch of dead timber around Jackson Lake created a barren and dangerous setting and the Hoover administration began the cleanup in 1929. Roosevelt had the CCC take over the job in 1933. Over 100 young men spent the summer of 1934 cutting and piling some 17,000 cords of wood to be burned during the winter months, noted historian Robert Ryder. By the mid-1930s the CCC had removed the shoreline tragedy at Jackson Lake. Ccc members would serve up to four to six-month hitches. Despite the demanding work, more than half re-upped at once.
Speaker 1:Many enrolled in camp educational programs. Camp Miller in Sublette County offered vocational courses like blacksmithing, bulldozer operation, carpentry, woodworking, cooking, vocational guidance, road construction, tractor operation and photography. Academic courses included English, composition, spelling, business, arithmetic, trigonometry, latin, spanish and citizenship. Enrollees were also given the opportunity to take correspondent studies with the University of Wyoming, including English, mathematics, social science, biology, typing and shorthand. The university also offered special courses for CCC recruits in auto mechanics, forestry, journalism and bookkeeping. By August of 1933, 24 camps were already established in Wyoming.
Speaker 1:Seven camps were attached to the National Park Service, four in Yellowstone and three in Grand Teton. Fifteen camps were also supervised by the Forest Service, including seven in the Medicine Bow National Forest, at Pole Mountain, chimney Park, centennial Arlington Encampment, french Creek and Ryan Park. There were also at least one in the Bighorn National Forest, camp O'Connor. They're the subsequent Muddy Guard Station in the Buffalo Ranger District. Because of the lack of complete Forest Service CC inventory, the location of seven camps during the initial years are unknown. One camp may have been located on the Wind River Indian Reservation, still then called the Shoshone Agency before 1937. The final Wyoming camp Glow 1, was operated by the US General Land Office, precursor of today's Bureau of Land Management, and located on private land near Gillette. The number of CCC camps in Wyoming likely peaked at 32 in 1935. That number dropped to 15 camps within two years.
Speaker 1:Wyoming towns wanted more camps, not fewer, because the program provided jobs for unemployed local carpenters and other workers hired for the skilled labor required by many CCC projects and other workers hired for the skilled labor required by many CCC projects. Communities located in their camps also benefited economically, where CCC members made weekly excursions into town. Locals lobbied their congressional representatives and the ECW director for more enrollees and more camps. But even worthy projects promoted by the commercial business, agriculture and civil leaders were turned down. Citizens of Bridger Valley and southwest Wyoming spent the first two years of the CCC program trying to get a camp on the Bear River in Uinta County. They needed dams built on the Green River's Black Fork or Smith's Fork to control flooding for approximately 200 family ranches. If the reservoirs could not be constructed, the leader said families would not be able to continue making a living in Bridger Valley. The lobbying effort was led by an impressive group of officials HM Hopkins, black Fork Water Users Association President Joseph McEly, uinta County Farm Bureau President Starboard, stewart and Evanston Chamber of Commerce President Glenn Eastman and Van Roop, president of the Lyman Lions Club. Desperate for help, the coalition noted that if they could not secure a camp in Uinta County, they would settle for one across the state line in Utah. By 1935, though the CCC was starting to close camps, not add them. As Roosevelt's second new deal began, the president ordered that camps still working on their original projects be continued, but funding was not available for new ones.
Speaker 1:In the early days of the CCC, living conditions were primitive. The men slept in cheaply made tents until they built their own camps, where the work usually supervised by out-of-state miners and carpenters from their town. This immediately established good relationship between the CCCC and local residents, who saw a boost in their economy with both the construction and visits from men to their town on weekends. The first wave of enrollees were given hand-me-down US surplus uniforms and equipment from World War I. Later they were outfitted in a new spruce green uniforms.
Speaker 1:Fenwick said that the cooks at the first Yellowstone camp regularly burned food and served cold boiled potatoes that were hated by all the hard-working, hungry diners. The men had plotted to stand at signal at dinner and throw the potatoes at the mess officers. Fenwick recalled the commanding officer, holstered a .45 caliber service revolver on his hip, told them he knew about their plans. I warn you that I've taken just about all I can stand from you, he said. The first man who throws a potato in that mess hall tonight will get a bullet right between his eyes. I can put it there. The commander stood at the mess hall door throughout the entire meal. Fenwick wasn't surprised that no potato protests
Speaker 1:materialized. Ccc members had to stretch their scarce dollar. They paid for their personal items like toothpaste, tobacco products, hair oil, candy and gum, which they bought at the camp's post exchange. The men bought $2 vouchers and the money was deducted from their pay. To make extra money, some used their pre-CCC experience or learned new skills like cooking and took jobs in nearby communities during their off hours. Leo Vaughn, who worked at a camp in Thermopolis, knew how to sew and boosted his income by sewing up on buttons and mending
Speaker 1:clothes. Leo Kimmett, who was stationed at the CCC camp in Yellowstone, asked to borrow a typewriter from the company clerk so he could address a letter. A clerk's six-month hitch in the CCC was nearly over and the camp needed someone who could type and take over his duties. Kimmett was the only one in camp who could type, so he was the obvious replacement. He didn't mind, since the job paid him an extra $6 a month and he got to work inside, away from the tough labor outdoors. But Kimmett didn't stay on the job long. One day he accidentally told the wrong lieutenant that he was wanted on the telephone and the officer who should have received the message chewed him out. Because of a lack of communication, I was given a royal, typical army verbal reprimand. This hurts. Kimmett later wrote, coming from a gentle farming community of Palo, wyoming. The shock of the reprimand, unjustified in all respects, had an acute effect on me. After a sleepless night the next day Kimmett asked to be put back on the work crew. I decided to be mentally upset like this was not worth an extra six dollars a month. He recalled Two camps run by the US Bureau of Reclamation were set up in Guernsey State Park on the North Platte River in Platte
Speaker 1:County. Enrollees at one camp BR-9, worked on the park's east side, while the BR-10 was assigned to the area south of the seven-year-old Lake Guernsey. Today the work at Guernsey is considered one of the nation's best examples of how the program was used to enhance recreational opportunities and improve the landscape at a state park. Visitors still use many of the projects on the BR-9 crew built, including the boat dock, the hand-drilled stone drinking fountain and picnic shelters named for Indian leaders Spotted Tail, sitting Bull and Red Cloud. But the BR-9's most impressive accomplishment was the park's museum, which took the crew 6,100 man-hours to build. The museum is a one-of-a-kind limestone and log structure known as an excellent example of rustic architect movement. Its floor was quarried, cut, numbered and assembled in Thermopolis and shipped 250 miles to the park where it was reassembled. Most of the museum's original displays are nearly untouched. Meanwhile, camp BR-10 built the Guernsey State Park Castle and the latrine outhouse called the Million Dollar Biffy. The CCC put up the ladder for only $6,000. Park officials have estimated it would cost $1 million today to be rebuilt. The park's castle is a two-room picnic shelter that has enormous log supports limestone walls and a massive
Speaker 1:fireplace. The BR-10 was operated by a strict military camp, while BR-9 was overseen by the US Bureau of Reclamation Superintendent, james Kaufman. The work crews at both camps were divided into engineering, agricultural and landscaping units. This schedule was the same for both Reveille at 6 am sharp and breakfast precisely an hour later. A typical breakfast included bacon or ham, fruit, eggs and cereal. Lunch was brought to the crews working in the field, unless they were close enough to walk to camp. The menu for supper was a large portion of roast beef, pork or chicken, potatoes and gravy, vegetables and fruit, bread, butter and
Speaker 1:jelly. The men were required to be clean and presentable at all times, which meant clean and combed hair, brush teeth and a shower at least once a week. From 7.30 to 9, men could shop at the post, exchange or play cards at the canteen. The recreation center had two pool tables and a ping pong table. The lights out order was given promptly at 10 pm. Friday night was reserved for entertainment, including talent shows, singing and dancing. Boxing and wrestling matches were also held. People from the local town often came to entertain at night, both as performers and just to see the
Speaker 1:show. Pernsey State Park had a nine-hole public golf course built by the CCC, but there is no evidence that the men ever spent any time playing golf. The course was abandoned in the early 1940s. On the weekend the men of the Wyoming CCC camps played pickup baseball, often against local teams or teams from other camps. Hiking, climbing horseshoe and basketball on dirt courts were also popular, as were trips to town, where sometimes the members were not on their best behavior, especially if the town had a red light district or ignored prohibition still, at least nominally, in effect in 1933. Kevin recalls that after the June 1933 payday, a half dozen boys at his Yellowstone camp spent the weekend in Gardner Montana. Returning to the camp early Monday morning, about three or four of the boys were rolling in their own vomit on the floor of the state truck. He wrote. These unfortunates learned the hard way about the prevalent falsehood that rubbing alcohol became harmless when filtered through a slice of
Speaker 1:bread. Roosevelt wanted to make the CCC permanent, but Congress wouldn't go along with him. When World War II started, lawmakers realized they needed the members of the court to enter the military. Congress never actually abolished the CCC, but it quit its funding and the program. On July 1st of 1942, it approved $8 million to liquidate it. The primary impacts of the program on the state and nation were threefold. First of the program on the state and nation were threefold. First, its $25 per month benefit for members' families is credited with helping jumpstart the depression economy when a spark was desperately needed. The CCC put more than 2.5 million men and 8,000 women to work nationwide. Second, wyoming has many one-of-a-kind structures, such as the classic Guernsey State Park Museum, that remain well used and
Speaker 1:popular. The CCC crews also greatly expanded the state's infrastructure. In the Bighorn National Forest alone, workers helped build Sibley and Meadowlark dams, developed 102 acres of campgrounds, built three fire towers, constructed 25 bridges and strung 88 miles of telephone line. The CCC provided substantial income to the families and towns near the camps. Local workers who had lost their jobs were hired to build many of the larger facilities and structures of the camps. By preserving valuable timber resources, the CCC also helped keep alive the industries that communities depended
Speaker 1:upon. An intangible but vital benefit of the CCC was the positive impact the program had on those who served. It helped thousands of young men learn construction and wildlife preservation skills, gave them an opportunity to continue their formal education and even transformed their appearance and attitudes. The program changed their lives and helped make them better citizens. When they returned home, by September of 1933, a convoy of CCC men were taken by truck to meet a train headed out of the park at Yellowstone. Decades later, denver Post columnist Red Fenwick recalled that the crews he supervised were no longer the ragtag and subordinate troops who began working that spring. Uniforms were neat, neckties were tied, they were older, there was order and discipline, he recalled, and the men themselves were tougher, browner, heavier, more self-assured, confident and
Speaker 1:cooperative. I just love that story. I've heard a lot about the CCC camps and I know up at Metalark, which is up here to our east out of Thermop, up in the Bighorns above Tley Meadowlark Reservoir, there's a sign up there talking about the dam being built by the men of the CCC and some of the stuff they did. It came at a valuable time in our country. As I said, it really helped us get through the Depression and it provided a lot of benefits to everyone involved and probably made a lot of young men into older and more responsible men that probably were a lot better for our country. I wonder if the CCC would work today. Thanks for joining us today and we hope you enjoy our podcast. As per the code of the West, we ride for the brand and we ride for Wyoming. We'll be right back. We are the Buckeyes Cowboys, cowboys, cowboys. © BF-WATCH TV 2021.
